Dokeos developers considering SCA

[Caroline Maynard]

See
http://dokeoslead.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/dokeos-drupal-link-planning/.
Maybe some existing users of SCA in this kind of environment could advise?

[Dylan]

This is timely! I'm currently retrofitting ILIAS3, another Learning
Management System, with SCA so that I can talk to it with a Flex
client. I looked at Dokeos, but settled on ILIAS3 because it provides
some features Dokeos doesn't.

Fortunately for me, ILIAS3 already exposes much of its functionality
through service classes, so all I have to do is get rid of the
thousands of lines of code stacked up around those to make them work
with nuSOAP.

Seehttp://dokeoslead.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/dokeos-drupal-link-planning/.
Maybe some existing users of SCA in this kind of environment could advise?

[Yannick]

Hi all,

I just joined the group. I'm the lead developer for Dokeos.

I would be interested in having a list of what Dylan's been
looking for that ILIAS provides and Dokeos doesn't (really).

Haven't tried SCA just yet but will start doing that soon...

Yannick

Post by Dylan
This is timely! I'm currently retrofitting ILIAS3, another Learning
Management System, with SCA so that I can talk to it with a Flex
client. I looked at Dokeos, but settled on ILIAS3 because it provides
some features Dokeos doesn't.
Fortunately for me, ILIAS3 already exposes much of its functionality
through service classes, so all I have to do is get rid of the
thousands of lines of code stacked up around those to make them work
with nuSOAP.

Seehttp://dokeoslead.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/dokeos-drupal-link-planning/.
Maybe some existing users of SCA in this kind of environment could advise?

[Kariboe]

Hi!

I'm also working on Dokeos, the 2.0 version that is currently in
development. I heard about the package from Yannick (lead dev dokeos)
and I'm looking how we can integrate/use SCA/SDO in Dokeos.

Regards,

Stefaan Vanbillemont
E-learning Dept.
University College Ghent - Belgium

[Yannick]

Just to keep you informed, about our progress, Kariboe has started
testing it out (I still haven't) but is concerned about the fact that
we have to install SCA/SDO as a server "plugin", which isn't super-
suitable for an open-source web project (it means we add a requirement
for potential users, which takes out the complete range of free-
hosting users).
I am personally not really concerned about this point as I'm expecting
our implementation to offer a conditional use of the web services we
would provide (either you have SCA/SDO and it works, or you don't and
it doesn't). Most of our user base will only want to use web services
if they have their portal hosted with some kind of caring hosting
provider.

Anyway... Dokeos 2.0 is planned only for mid-2009 but I'm still
hopeful I'm going to be able to implement it for a few stuff before
the end of the north-hemisphere's summer.

Bye,

Yannick

[Graham Charters]

Hi Yannick, thanks for the update.

Having to install SCA/SDO as a plugin and the issue with Web hosts is
something we've agonized over on numerous occasions. SCA itself is
user-land code, but it makes extensive use of SDO in the
implementation and also requires SDO for complex types. SDO is the
extension code based on Apache Tuscany C++. Unfortunately, it would
take a lot of effort to replace the SDO implementation with one in
user-land code.

It's great to hear you're making progress. I look forward to hearing
more.

Regards, Graham.

Post by Yannick
Just to keep you informed, about our progress, Kariboe has started
testing it out (I still haven't) but is concerned about the fact that
we have to install SCA/SDO as a server "plugin", which isn't super-
suitable for an open-source web project (it means we add a requirement
for potential users, which takes out the complete range of free-
hosting users).
I am personally not really concerned about this point as I'm expecting
our implementation to offer a conditional use of the web services we
would provide (either you have SCA/SDO and it works, or you don't and
it doesn't). Most of our user base will only want to use web services
if they have their portal hosted with some kind of caring hosting
provider.
Anyway... Dokeos 2.0 is planned only for mid-2009 but I'm still
hopeful I'm going to be able to implement it for a few stuff before
the end of the north-hemisphere's summer.
Bye,
Yannick